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	<title>Comments on: Burks, Galarraga Among Newcomers on Hall Ballot</title>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Dec 2009 01:55:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Any chance we&#039;ll see Jack and Tracy&#039;s ballots?</description>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:14:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As I recall, Tracy voted for him last year so he can probably tackle the reasons why Morris should be in. 

From my perspective, though, I think he was the beneficiary of being on some very good teams. His win totals don&#039;t really tell you how good he was - they just tell you how good he was compared to his team. Compare him to somebody like Blyleven, who was better in every way except that he played for bad teams and got fewer wins. (The larger point here is that wins and losses tell you basically nothing about how good a pitcher is.)

Morris was a good but not great pitcher who played for some great teams. Yes, definitely, extra credit for his postseason heroics but, for me, he falls well short.

This Joe Posnanski blog article illuminates part of the argument against him: http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/09/12/pitching-to-the-score/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As I recall, Tracy voted for him last year so he can probably tackle the reasons why Morris should be in. </p>
<p>From my perspective, though, I think he was the beneficiary of being on some very good teams. His win totals don&#8217;t really tell you how good he was &#8211; they just tell you how good he was compared to his team. Compare him to somebody like Blyleven, who was better in every way except that he played for bad teams and got fewer wins. (The larger point here is that wins and losses tell you basically nothing about how good a pitcher is.)</p>
<p>Morris was a good but not great pitcher who played for some great teams. Yes, definitely, extra credit for his postseason heroics but, for me, he falls well short.</p>
<p>This Joe Posnanski blog article illuminates part of the argument against him: <a href="http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/09/12/pitching-to-the-score/" rel="nofollow">http://joeposnanski.com/JoeBlog/2009/09/12/pitching-to-the-score/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Roland</title>
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		<dc:creator>Roland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking the same thing ^^^^
Jack Morris - His pitching in the World Series alone should make him a shoe in.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking the same thing ^^^^<br />
Jack Morris &#8211; His pitching in the World Series alone should make him a shoe in.</p>
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		<title>By: JR</title>
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		<dc:creator>JR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:53:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Help me understand why Jack Morris doesn&#039;t get stronger consideration?</description>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 21:05:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also worth mentioning that he&#039;s a former Denver Bear.</description>
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		<title>By: Reader f/k/a Mike</title>
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		<dc:creator>Reader f/k/a Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Nov 2009 08:35:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I dunno about 1st ballot, but Raines likely would get a lot more attention if Henderson didn&#039;t exist, and for all the wrong reasons.

Both guys are known for their stolen bases, and both players tend to be wildy underrated in terms of their other skills.  Raines unfortunately seems to be saddled with a lot of the attributes of the underrated player - his big years were in Montreal, his triple-crown stats don&#039;t reflect his strengths as a player, he didn&#039;t get much of a chance to play in the post-season, and though he had a long and productive career, his play in his 30&#039;s lacked any star years, so at best they defy a handy narrative and at worst he&#039;s seen as one who &quot;just hung around.&quot;  

It&#039;s too bad.  80&#039;s baseball was very different from today&#039;s environment and Raines was a special player.  Looks like Raines has the most runs scored for any post-1900, HoF-eligible ballplayer who is not in the HoF.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I dunno about 1st ballot, but Raines likely would get a lot more attention if Henderson didn&#8217;t exist, and for all the wrong reasons.</p>
<p>Both guys are known for their stolen bases, and both players tend to be wildy underrated in terms of their other skills.  Raines unfortunately seems to be saddled with a lot of the attributes of the underrated player &#8211; his big years were in Montreal, his triple-crown stats don&#8217;t reflect his strengths as a player, he didn&#8217;t get much of a chance to play in the post-season, and though he had a long and productive career, his play in his 30&#8217;s lacked any star years, so at best they defy a handy narrative and at worst he&#8217;s seen as one who &#8220;just hung around.&#8221;  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s too bad.  80&#8217;s baseball was very different from today&#8217;s environment and Raines was a special player.  Looks like Raines has the most runs scored for any post-1900, HoF-eligible ballplayer who is not in the HoF.</p>
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		<title>By: Ryan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ryan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Nov 2009 22:58:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sure hope Raines gets more support this year. If he hadn&#039;t played at the same time as Rickey Henderson, he&#039;d be a 1st ballot buy. He&#039;s the second greatest lead-off hitter of all-time!

My hypothetical ballot:

Raines
Blyleven
Trammell
Alomar
Larkin
Martinez
McGriff</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sure hope Raines gets more support this year. If he hadn&#8217;t played at the same time as Rickey Henderson, he&#8217;d be a 1st ballot buy. He&#8217;s the second greatest lead-off hitter of all-time!</p>
<p>My hypothetical ballot:</p>
<p>Raines<br />
Blyleven<br />
Trammell<br />
Alomar<br />
Larkin<br />
Martinez<br />
McGriff</p>
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