Phillies caught stealing at Coors Field
Philadelphia may have add some added help in their series opening victory at Colorado.
Tracy Ringolsby has the story at FOXSports.com
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Is that illegal?
Isn’t that why catchers, 3B coaches, and managers disguise the real sign amongst a bunch of decoys, in case the other team is watching?
And using binocs from the CF bullpen sounds like doing it the hard way. All they need is a guy in the booth, or anywhere really, watching the game on TV and on the telephone. The tricky part would be relaying the sign to the batter. Doing so from CF would require some pretty keen eyesight on the part of the batter.
If MLB is getting involved and issuing a warning maybe it’s worth taking note. But…
It’s silly to think in this day that someone using binoculars would be more advantageous than someone sitting in the clubhouse watching the game on TV. Heck, they have a MPH read-out and pitch description on one of the infield monitors below the club and field level. Are batters so clueless that they don’t know what pitches they were thrown? Are batters wearing earpieces and the guy in the BP is telling them what’s coming? I highly doubt it, but it could happen. Can we expect Victorino to get some chin music? I hope so.
There is a delay in the TV coverage from the actual event. Thus, the sign on the TV coverage probably comes too late for the team to take advantage. Could there be communication between a camera man and the team? That might be an interesting idea.
A long and honored tradition in baseball unlike other sports. The binoculars are a bit over the top thought. The hitter still has to translate the information into a swing and hitting a baseball is still the hardest thing to do in any sport.
“the hitter still has to swing and hit”…sounds awfully familiar to the excuse some make regarding steroid use, yet its still prohibited.
There are reasons why the offense can only have 2 coaches on the field during play and reasons why a pitcher can only have 1 mound visit by a coach in an inning without getting yanked and a reason you can only have 1 batter on deck.
A runner at second relaying signals is fair (though maybe “dirty” or “low”). Having an undeclared coach, player, or scout off the field impacting a game is WAY OUT OF BOUNDS.
Personally, I think they need to clean up the on deck circle hijinx as well.
Interesting discussion…
Thanks Jasper and ProgMatinee, what you said makes a lot of sense.
Assuming the batter does not have a earpiece or super vision,
I suppose the info (fastball, changup, etc) could go bullpen to dugout to 3B coach/baserunner and then be relayed to the batter with a simple sign. All this would have to be relayed in about 2 seconds. Knowing what speed the next pitch is going to be would be a big advantage.
Now that the Phils have quickly gained a reputation for doing this, and opposing teams and umpires will be watching, I expect it will be fairly easy to spot should they try it again.
Listening to the game today, and we blew a couple opportunities to jump on Halladay early. Runners on 3rd and 2nd with no outs, and do not come away with a run, terrible. Very frustrating listening/watching this team right now.
even if its not relayed during the particular AB, its still information that is benefiting the future ABs.
You have the bp coach charting the signals, then talking on the phone with Victorino telling him, “when you see__its a ___”. Victorino then relays to every player the signals, so that the next time any player is on second he can decode the signals back to the batter.
If the players want to distract themselves from other aspects of the game decoding thats their business, but they shouldn’t have someone doing it for them.
haha regarding your latest twitter and the denver post, Tracy.