Micheal Cuddyer addition

December 16, 2011 | 8:58 am | 30  

I am reserving my judgment until after the first season is over.  Good player, but at $31M over three years?  He better not go Wiggy on the Rox.  But I do like the idea of CarGo-Tulo-Cuddyer-Helton-Hernandez in the middle of the order. 

If rumors are to be believed, Seth Smith is going to be dealt within a week or so now that we have Cuddyer.

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  • progmatinee | December 16, 2011 | 9:03 am

    If Smith does leave that puts a lot more responsibility on Giambi to up his PH game from last year.

  • Wayne | December 16, 2011 | 10:03 am

    With this addition that kind of leaves Blackmon/Wheeler out of the loop. Now maybe they can part with one of Fowler, Blackmon, Wheeler along with Smith to get Prado or Jurgens.

  • ian | December 16, 2011 | 10:18 am

    Remember when hitters wanted to come here and play for less than market value? Thanks a lot humidor.

  • rockymountainhigh | December 16, 2011 | 10:51 am

    prog, it was really JT’s responsibility. He was so set on using Giambi only in the 9th inning. Loosen up and send him when the situation presents itself earlier in the game when we need a clutch hit. It can be anytime between the 6th and 9th inning. JT always killed the rally by sending a seldom used PH when we needed a couple of runs in our best opportunity to rally.

  • Rich M | December 16, 2011 | 10:53 am

    Great comment Ian, wow what an overpay – I just don’t get it DanO?

  • JP | December 16, 2011 | 1:29 pm

    I do like the idea of Cuddyer in right. Did we overpay? Maybe a little, but Cuddyer made 10.5 mil last season so this is just salary parity for him.

  • Luke | December 16, 2011 | 2:32 pm

    Wait, why is Dan O’Dowd still employed?

  • Rich M | December 16, 2011 | 2:44 pm

    JP, “Did we overpay? Maybe a little…” If my math skills are right that looks like the difference between Willingham $21m and Cuddyer $31.5m was about $10.5m, and that might be a few bucks more than a little.

    I am going to have some great fun comparing Willingham stats to Cuddyer’s over the next three years. Aside from the “maybe a little” money issue, Willingham remains the better player and the better fit for the Rockies RH power bat needs!

  • Ryan | December 16, 2011 | 3:19 pm

    Fire O’Dowd. This team just spend $30 million for 3 years of a decent outfielders decline, but they’ll cry poverty when an opportunity to make a significant move comes along.

  • Ryan | December 16, 2011 | 3:19 pm

    *spent

  • Julian | December 16, 2011 | 5:11 pm

    RMH, Cuddyer could have a great first year, and it could still turn out to be a bad deal for the Rockies. I don’t think that the Rockies are going to be a playoff team in 2012, so even if Cuddyer plays great, we’re likely to still be an also ran. However, I have high hopes for 2013 and 2014 when the bulk of the young prospects start arriving. If in those years his performance declines, or his salary precludes other deals, or if he delays the development of Wheeler/Matthes/Parker, then it could turn out to be a bad deal. Here are a couple of factors that could improve the deal for me: we get something good in return for trading Smith; and Cuddyer does OK for three years and takes over for Todd at 1B after Todd retires, assuming that Todd will retire before Cuddyer’s three years runs out.

  • egossage | December 16, 2011 | 6:50 pm

    My concern about trading Smith now is teams know he just dropped down on the depth chart and teams won’t offer as much in a trade as they would have before Cuddyer.

  • miketober | December 16, 2011 | 7:50 pm

    My concern is that the Scapegoating Rockies will give Smith away to a team like the Dbacks, he will pound the crap out of us 18 games per year, and we will get to watch AZ in the playoffs again. Don’t deal Smith unless we get a Prado caliber player in return!

  • EdtheUmp | December 20, 2011 | 7:35 am

    Fellas…

    It hasn’t been released yet but the Rox have committed to Casey Blake on a non-guaranteed contract(2 mil) and an invite to spring training.

    He will be signed in case Arenado doesn’t make the 2012 team out of spring training.

    He will play 3rd base if Arenado doesn’t. He can also spell Helton at first and can play the corner outfield positions in a pinch.

    He won’t get us many HR’s but is a class-act and will mentor Arenado.

    I’ve known Casey since he was 13 years old…he can plays a very nice 3b and will be a huge positive impact in the clubhouse.(Yes, I know some of you will say we’ve got enough of them and he doesn’t bring anything to the table.)

    Don’t know if he’ll make the team out of ST but I’m selfishly hoping he does. It will be nice to see him on a regular basis, if he makes the team out of ST.

  • progmatinee | December 20, 2011 | 8:05 am

    Very nice value signing if that is a case. I was a fan of his during Cleveland days.

  • rockymountainhigh | December 20, 2011 | 8:13 am

    Two thumbs up for the Blake signing – we have a veteran backup plan if Arenado can’t quite be ready for the majors. I have total confidence in Arenado with his RISP hitting and low strikeout rate. That’s an upgrade over anything we had last year along with Jordan Pacheco.

  • Pooter | December 20, 2011 | 9:11 am

    Rockies 2012 Lineup:

    EYJ 2B
    Fowler CF
    Cargo RF
    Tulo SS
    Cuddyer LF
    Helton 1B
    Blake 3B
    Hernandez C

    I LIKE IT!!!!!

  • progmatinee | December 20, 2011 | 9:35 am

    I can live with it, but wouldn’t mind:

    Fowler
    Blake
    Cargo
    Tulo
    Cuddyer
    Helton
    Hernandez
    Herrera

    I think with solid offensive production out of Cuddyer, Blake and Hernandez it would give the Rockies the luxury of putting a defensive 2B in.

  • Wayne | December 20, 2011 | 10:22 am

    I still think this has a chance to happen.

    Fowler
    Prado
    Cargo
    Tulo
    Cuddyer
    Helton
    Hernandez
    Blake/Pacheco

    All of a sudden I’m excited offensively

  • Mike in FTC | December 20, 2011 | 10:46 am

    I like Wayne’s lineup a little better. Blake in the 2 hole seems like a bunch of GIDP waiting to happen. Plus it includes the hope for Prado. I don’t know if I can watch EY2 play second all season. He doesn’t have the arm to consistently turn the double play.

    Now if we could also only get an arm…

  • Mike in FTC | December 20, 2011 | 11:09 am

    By the way- anybody know anything about the Rockies TV rights? I know plently of other teams are getting massive local TV contracts, how much are the Rockies being inhibited by Clear Channel (ROOT)owning a piece of the Rox?

  • rockymountainhigh | December 20, 2011 | 12:11 pm

    Can’t believe you are all omitting Arenado:

    Fowler
    Prado/Nelson/Lxxxxx(however you spell his name from the Cubs)
    Gonzalez
    Tulo
    Cuddyer
    Helton
    Arenado
    Hernandez
    pitcher

  • rox4brains | December 20, 2011 | 12:15 pm

    I’m sure the Rockies get a sizable piece of the TV pie, but if inhibited it’s because they do not have the massive audience many of the teams have due to geography, hence any contract would reflect the potential audience size reached? There are just not that many people in the Rocky Mountain region as a whole than say any eastern or western metropolitan areas like NYC, Boston, Chicago, Cleveland, or LA, San Fran, etc.

  • progmatinee | December 20, 2011 | 12:38 pm

    I read something on the MLBtraderumors of Mets like EYJ.

    I proposed a week or 2 ago EYJ, Seth Smith and Alez White for Niese. Not sure if including White would be an overpay or not. I did not like what I saw from White at all so I would include him for Niese but would certainly be fine if he wasn’t required in the trade.

    I’m not sure why Niese is not liked by Mets fans. I love his low BB/9, low HR/9, and high SO/9. With a good defense behind him he would be a solid #3 or better.

  • Mike Raysfan | December 20, 2011 | 1:30 pm

    Prog, Tracy Ringolsby posted the Rockies interest in Niese. Within 2 hours ESPN disagreed and said the Mets had ZERO interest in a trade involving Smith.

  • progmatinee | December 20, 2011 | 1:48 pm

    We never know until it happens. These guys are like politicians and criminals. Deny deny deny.

  • Miketober | December 20, 2011 | 3:29 pm

    I just got an email from coloradorockies.com announcing a 3-year deal with Michael Cuddyer. lol.

  • Mike Raysfan | December 20, 2011 | 11:59 pm

    Miketober, funny you said that. I rarely get squat from the Rockies. The Padres? On average we go to 6 games at Petco a season. They treat us like long time season ticket holders. I get updates on everything from them.

  • Mike Raysfan | December 22, 2011 | 3:49 pm

    I see Tracy Ringolsby is tweeting Prince Fielder to the Mariners is a done deal. Tracy is it true he got a bigger contract than Albert Puljos? Close to $26m a yr.?

  • progmatinee | December 22, 2011 | 3:59 pm

    Wonder if that makes Smoak available. He would be a nice return in a package of say EYJ, Seth Smith and a prospect.